Why Imaginary Solar Returns (or virtual or fake, whatever you want to call them) can’t even work in theory. Full transcript of my YouTube of the same name.
I would like to offer you some thoughts on something that is becoming fashionable these days and which is based on a suggestive idea, that of being able to transform iron into gold, this ancient alchemical dream. Evidently it corresponds to an archetype, a mythologem, a universal symbol that pre-exists man and which then ends up dwelling in the soul of every human being.
This is legitimate.
Each of us can, and I would dare say must, dream of “being able to fly”. And so, as sometimes happens in our dreams, during the night, with our eyes closed, we dream of flying like eagles can.
It is a wonderful dream that, from a psychoanalytic point of view, is full of meanings, positive prospects, growth and so on. So it is legitimate, all of this is legitimate. This is to tell you that the act of turning iron into gold, of making the play that will earn them one hundred million euros, of being able to fly towards the sun with open arms and so on, is part of the dream of many people. Then, moving from the dream dimension to the practical one, unfortunately things change completely. So, while it is not wrong to dream, to caress a dream, to lull oneself with the idea that one day such an event will be possible, on the other hand we cannot be so indulgent in classifying the behavior of certain people who then exploit these ancestral needs of man economically and try to fraudulently profit from something that cannot happen. But for objectively physical reasons, and I am referring to the fact that now there are people who, among other things, also claim to be from my school and who promise those who 
cannot leave for their birthday neither for the solar nor for the lunar: “Don’t worry, you don’t have to go to the Pacific to remove this Mars from the first House…” They say: “I’ll take it away from you and without you leaving home, you give me a hundred euros and I’ll take it away from you…” and the other asks: “But how do you take it away?” “Well, I’ll take it away from you with the pendulum…”
Then there’s another one who says: I apply “quantum” energies, I put my hands on your sky map and move the stars… Let’s say that this reminds us of a famous Walt Disney film, a wonderful movie that we all saw as children, related to these magical things that happened in those scenes, but when they were the cartoons of the great Disney, wonderfully colored, that moved not only on the movie screen, but also in our hearts, it could be suggestive, cute and beautiful to let yourself go to this oblivion, as can be beautiful the praise of escape that Henry Laborit talks about. Otherwise we are in total fake.
When we move from the theoretical level of dreams, which in some way could soothe some of our suffering, and we move to the practical level, where there is Tizio or Caio who says: “Don’t worry, you give me a hundred euros, I’ll put my hands on the drawing or even put my fingers on my temples and look intensely at your Lunar Revolution painting and move Mars to the House you tell me one, Jupiter to the House you like the most. Give me a hundred euros and I’ll do this…” then here the matter becomes more burdensome. You ask, but who cares about all this, this should be more a question of public order, of the judiciary. I had the privilege of spending a couple of years, as I wrote, with the great Giambattista Callegari who had made sensational discoveries with his experimental radiobiology control unit and who in the books he wrote also included the example that I reproduced in my magazine “Ricerca ‘90” and that I did myself at home, winding a simple spiral of a very small coil, a copper wire, which in particular conditions allowed me to perform an experiment that, according to physics, was impossible and that instead demonstrated the K effect of the K circuit of the Callegari control unit and I would like to remember that he had created this system that was based on an oscillator. In electronics then the circuits are not ten thousand, the fundamental circuits will be seven or eight: there is the oscillator, there is the amplifier, there is the trimmer, that is, the one that cuts a wave beyond a certain threshold. There are seven or eight circuits… He had created this oscillator which had as its working frequency a narrow range of frequencies which was between the radar waves and one of the two extremes of the visible rays zone (the colours) and so, within these frequencies, what did he do?
He created a resonance circuit, then he had the subject apply his fingers to two rheophores, that is, to two metal buttons, he had the subject apply his fingers or if the subject was not present he would insert a photograph of himself into this oscillating circuit and at first it seemed like magic to me but the explanation was very simple: the silver salts that made up that image, that photo, were nothing other than the electromagnetic imprinting of that subject on the paper with those silver salts. In short, the photograph had its own specificity which is like fingerprints, so when he inserted the photo into this circuit he then operated on the capacitors which changed the frequencies of the oscillating circuit and created a resonance, like when we, with the old analogue radios, looked for a radio station: we moved the capacitor until the frequency of the receiver was the same as the frequency of the transmitter and we heard ‘O sole mio’ or we heard Charles Aznavour or whatever you like. So all this was flawless, flawless, and even what Callegari was saying about the possibility of alleviating certain pathologies is the entire legacy that his son, the engineer Giuseppe Callegari, is treasuring, doing a remarkable meritorious work because he is republishing his father’s books, with meticulous work, collecting documents, the testimonies of hundreds of us who drank from that source and he is producing extraordinary realities. Now he is busy with the last two volumes, when they are finished I have proposed that I will be his “boy”, obviously for free, and I will dedicate myself to him also for a couple of days to present these books in Milan, to introduce to many people that jewel that is Callegari’s science. So he, the son, with his daughter, who in turn is a biologist, have developed a series of tests to demonstrate the validity of the Callegari effect. He says but what does all this have to do with moving Mars or Jupiter? We’ll get there, have a little patience. So they set up experiments that are so objective that they cannot be denied.
Let’s start with the experiment that in my opinion is the most important of all: that of modifying the pH of a liquid in more or less constant environmental conditions. What is meant by “more or less constant environmental conditions”? Those that in science are defined as inside a black box, a black box where humidity, atmospheric pressure, temperature and so on are practically constant. Now without going to the extremes of a laboratory, even during a conference, if we are inside an air-conditioned room, the fluctuations in temperature and humidity and atmospheric pressure will be very slight, they cannot affect this experiment, I can assure you because the subject that I studied with the most passion when I was graduating and I graduated in industrial electronics was “electronic measurements”, a subject that I was enormously passionate about because it corresponded to my critical spirit, to my Mars in Virgo, and I wanted to split a hair in four and go and see if the four parts were equal and I did it following repeatable protocols, this is the substance… So let’s take a liquid. You know that every liquid, like every liquid or solid substance, has its own pH and the pH is the index of acidity of an element.
So let’s take some very pure bi-distilled water, some simple bi-distilled water, perhaps in a sealed bottle. Here, this bi-distilled water will start with its own specific pH that we can establish with great precision. Why? Because when we go to measure this pH with a device, a pH meter, we who know more or less what the pH of said substance will be, let’s say that we are more or less certain that it will be between 5 and 7 pH. So, before starting our measurements, we will equip ourselves with two sealed vials produced by specific pharmaceutical companies or companies directly connected to the construction of these pH measuring devices that will give us certain samples with a certain pH that will allow us to read even the second decimal place. So, for example, they will give us a vial that will be 5.03 pH and another that will be 6.98 pH.
When we have measured these two vials and found that the data on our measuring device correspond to the maximum approximation of one digit, which means the second decimal place, therefore one hundredth of a pH, we can be almost one hundred percent certain that everything we measure a minute later, within that range, between 5 and 7, we will measure with great precision and this great precision will give us a result that will have as a maximum error one hundredth of a pH unit. What we are saying is important.
Now, what does the Callegari juniors, son and grandson, experiment consist of? It consists of the fact that during the conference, before starting to speak, they will measure this pH of the said substance and they will measure it in front of you. Everyone will be able to come closer and check that there are no sleight of hand tricks by the various, I don’t know, Ivan or that other magician who became secretary of CICAP, things of that sort.
No, that everything happens in broad daylight. After that, during the chat, they will submit a photo of this bottle inside the Callegari control unit and will impose a frequency that can be applied from the control unit itself, establishing upstream how long it will take this pH to change and what value it will approach. So, for example, the experiment will say I will try to bring you this pH that is acidic because it is 5, let’s say, I will try to bring it much more in the basic direction and I will make it approach 6 during the chat. If we have ascertained that at the start this pH was 5.03, let’s say, and at the end of the conversation we verify that the pH is 5.80, well it seems to me that there can be no doubts about the effect of the Callegari control unit: it was able to vary the degree of acidity and basicity of that water, I repeat, bi-distilled and sealed.
So, therefore, someone might say: so you see? You can act by transforming even inorganic chemistry, but if you manage to transform inorganic chemistry, you are also able to transform organic chemistry and therefore, for a person who for example has very strong problems with stomach acidity, you can do the same job and this person after two or three hours of having put their photo under the Callegari control unit will feel much better with their stomach and if they do a gastroscopy they will verify that that person really is much better with their stomach because the pH inside their stomach has gone much more in the basic direction.
Of course, but we are talking about two completely different things.
That is, to be clear, let’s say we can create a direct and logical connection between a Mars in a certain House and the acidity of John Doe’s stomach. So one thing is what Callegari senior said and what Callegari junior says today and also his daughter and many of us, and among us there were several physics professors, professors of chairs in universities in Italy and also chemistry professors in different universities in Italy, but not only in Italy (Callegari was offered a chair in Canada and he did not accept and remained in Naples for the rest of his life), and another fact is the “magic” that some people talk about…
Everyone will tell you that it is possible, on the basis of a situation of an astral determinant that causes acidity in the stomach, in a subject, to soothe the effects of this attack on the subject’s stomach. Now, to make it simple, because otherwise the discussion would become very complicated, let’s say that this strong stomach acidity is due to Mars in the first House of the Solar Revolution. So if we use, and mind you, it’s not like a Callegari control unit can do five, six, seven, ten things at the same time, no, we put a wave on it and it works on that wave, then for a year we could try to soothe the effects of that Mars that is in the subject’s first House and that is expressed above all through a strong stomach acidity. Is that okay? But this doesn’t mean that we have removed Mars from the first House, so much so that if we disconnect the control unit for just a minute, for the entire following year, Mr. Rossi’s stomach ache will return to the same as it was before. So we haven’t done what some promise, we haven’t removed Mars from the first House to put it, I don’t know, in the fourth, because these people perhaps delude themselves that they will kill their mother-in-law in this way. No, they are stupid, silly. Apart from the fact that there are clever mothers-in-law that many, including me, are happy to have, but to relate to the jokes some people believe that by putting Mars in the fourth House they will kill the mother-in-law and remove it from the first. It is not so because the Callegari control unit and therefore the k effect, which someone else will call “the quantum effect of my hands applied to the photo” and another will say “it’s a slap in the face that I do”, in short whatever you want, but, in the end, the concept is that those who say they do this thing claim to have moved Mars from the first to the fourth House, but it is not true, they cannot do it because assuming that they were able to perform an action like the one I have just described to you by means of the Callegari control unit, they would have to remain “with their hands applied to that photo for three hundred and sixty-five days a year” and it would not be the effect of moving Mars from the first to the fourth, but – theoretically – they would be able to soothe only one of the side effects of that Mars in first, that is, the heartburn, but they could not eliminate Mars that is in the sky, because the Mars that is in the sky, above all else, is the most powerful reality that exists. There is no force in the universe more powerful than the stars that revolve around us, so we can put a patch, a plaster to soothe the effects of a Mars that will remain in first, but we cannot move Mars from first to fourth and I think everyone understands this.
Ciro buongiorno, come pensi sarà il rapporto tra musulmani e italiani nei prossimi anni? O decenni ? Vedi scontri? Cosa dice la tua scuola rispetto alla situazione sociale ( esclusivamente sociale non economica) che ci aspetta ? Non so da dove viene ma mi sale un’ angoscia rispetto a questo argomento…..
Gabriele asks: Ciro good morning, how do you think the relationship between Muslims and Italians will be in the next few years? Or decades? Do you see clashes? What does your school say about the social situation (exclusively social not economic) that awaits us? I don’t know where it comes from but I feel anguish about this topic…
Gabriele, this space is intended for all Astrology supporters, even beyond Abbiategrasso and therefore, out of respect for everyone, we write in English.
This time I took care of the translation, but next time I will not be able to publish your posts in Italian.
And now we come to your question.
Let’s start from page 226 of the first edition of my “Guide to Astrology”, Giovanni Armenia publisher, 1979: “Pluto in Aquarius. Spread of socialism throughout the world?”
Well, of course I was speaking, then, as an astrologer and also as a young communist. Today I would slightly rectify the shot and write: “Spread of Islam throughout the world?”.
Even Oriana Fallaci, in her “Insciallah”, Rizzoli BUR, in 1990 asked herself the same question.
Personally, I do not believe in “final solutions” and I think, rather, of historical periods that can characterize the path of Man (to be generous) on Earth, but always within his nature, at least half animal.
If we then try to focus with the right lenses, we understand that trying to separate this path also using the border line of the Italian borders, would be quite reductive and I think it is more correct to refer to a Western-European logic.
I respect many historians, even in Italy, people who have been able to tell, quite objectively, the history of the last hundred years at least, but no one has convinced me as to why this religion has been so successful throughout the world and in recent centuries.
Returning to Astrology, however, I have written my predictions not for this year or the next, but for the years from 2024 to at least ten years after: if you want, get the golden number of ASTRA (December 2023) where, at the request of the Director, I wrote my pages of predictions.
There I marked the stages of these immediate decades that lie ahead, according to my seeing and feeling.
I have identified, I believe precisely, the years of the next global crisis, but not in a logic of millenarianism and presumed ends of the world, but rather of periodic crises of planet Earth, with many millions of deaths, as in the crises of the past.
I reiterate, therefore, that I find it more logical to speak of trends of thought and not of irreversible drifts (for some upgrades).
When I began to work, between 1968/1969, at the Istituto Motori of Naples, of the National Research Council, there was, outside the door of one of the toilets, the sign “Reserved” (for the head of the Drawing Room). All this was swept away by the 1968, together with medieval forms of Christianity and blockage towards progress.
Today the cry of “Insciallah” seems to make the veins of the world tremble, but the world is quite old and will age a lot more, even if there were to be a nuclear blackout, an asteroid strike or general human stupidity for a few million years.
This is pure gold!! Thanks Ciro!
Dear Ciro,
I am writing you here my questions about Targeted Solar Returns:
1) if I have Venus of SR in 1st House at 8 degrees of Leo and Moon in 5 House of SR at 13 degrees of Sagitarius and I notice that my ex boyfriend with whom for next year I’d like to rekindle has the same exact positions in his Natal Chart, is it meaningful data to consider? Is it just a funny coincidence?
2) Does it make sense to create a synastry using 2 partners’ SR instead of their natal charts?
3) How about one’s Venus Return for love matters? How should it be read and used?
Helllo, Chiara.
One question at a time: it’s just a strange coincidence.
In a Solar Return which details can indicate that a love relationship rekindles with an ex partner and that the person will not have one with a new partner?
This is a totivalent question that embraces, that is, vast fields of knowledge. It is only a theoretical exercise and not at all practical.
If both ex partners have a Lunar Return with Uranus in 7th on the DC and are single could get back together?
Yes, this is possible.
Ciro in a targeted solar return with Venus in 1st house, Jupiter in 12th, ascendent in 7th, Pluto in 7th, moon in 5, Mars in 4th, Sun and Mercury in the second house, Uranus in 11th house and Saturn conjunct tip Neptune in 9th house, is it possible to get back together with an ex partner who lives in a foreign country?
In theory, yes, but practical examples are worth much more than abstract positions.
How can I provide you with the solar return chart as a practical example?
I am studying the matter and am eager to learn
You can write the complete and accurate birth data of a subject and then indicate the location for which to erect the Solar Return sky.
Ok, Ciro I see. The birth date is 1st September 2025 16:45 Florence Italy
And the solar return will be in Kaohsiung, Taiwan, on 31st August
Please double check what you wrote because I think it is wrong.
If you send a new request, repeat the question from the beginning and enter all the data needed to process it.
The date of birth is 1st September 1983, time of birth 16:45 (4.45 pm),
Place of birth Florence in Italy
Place for the targeted solar return: Kaohsiung in Taiwan Island
Chiara, if you want, repost your question and do not refer to other questions asked in the past: write everything in a single text.
Dear Ciro,
I would like your opinion about my next lunar return because I have noticed it will be very similar to the one that my ex partner will have in the same period.
At present we are not in contact anymore since the break-up.
The relationship ended in Dec because he did not want to commit (he lives in Moscow Russia) and due to long distance.
In July he will come back to Italy for summer holidays and I would like to’ understand with your help if my lunar return for 24th June and his lunar return for 7th July could mean that our relationship rekindles and that we reconnect.
Here are the natal data:
Chiara 01/09/1983 16:45 Florence
Place of lunar Return for 24th June: Florence, Italy
Sergio 06/08/1995 Empoli 03:00 (night)
Lunar return place: Moscow, Russia
Date of lunar return 7th July
Chiara, your question is legitimate, but it is not suitable for this space that tries to give simple answers and that cannot draft complex studies with many variables, studies more suited to the work of a professional who can apply himself for hours to this type of request.
For the future I suggest you ask questions relating to a single subject and not to multiple subjects and to favor information on the Solar Return over that on the Lunar Return.
Carissimo Ciro, Ti chiedo di potermi consigliare per la mia prossima rivoluzione solare. Ho individuato due località: una è Fernando de Noronha in Brasile, l’altra è Mildura in Australia. Entrambe mi piacciono per alcuni aspetti e mi creano timore per altri… quella del Brasile mi piace per la Venere in seconda e per il protettivo Giove in prima che è sempre gradito. Mi preoccupa invece un po’ l’ascendente in decima per i motivi relativi ai Transiti visto che avrò Saturno che tornando retrogado si congiunge alla mia luna radix In opposizione a sole e mercurio… è anche vero però che non mi è facile mettere l’ascendente in decima senza avere Transiti dissonanti dei pianeti lenti sui pianeti veloci… in passato l’ho avuto un paio di volte, uno in particolare è stato un anno difficile ma molto risolutivo per una questione molto importante. Di Mildura in Australia mi piace il Giove congiunto al discendente ma mi fa paura per la possibilità dell’effetto bistabile.. poi naturalmente come tu consigli mettere i malefici in terza è sempre cosa buona e giusta. Ti ringrazio per l’aiuto che vorrai darmi
I miei dati:
DANIELA
NATA A FERRARA IL 17-09-1959 ALLE 5,07
Dearest Ciro, I ask you to advise me for my next solar revolution. I have identified two locations: one is Fernando de Noronha in Brazil, the other is Mildura in Australia. I like both for some aspects and fear them for others… I like the one in Brazil for the Venus in the second and for the protective Jupiter in the first which is always welcome. I am a bit worried about the ascendant in the tenth for reasons related to the Transits since I will have Saturn which, returning retrograde, will join my radix moon in opposition to the sun and Mercury… it is also true however that it is not easy for me to put the ascendant in the tenth without having dissonant Transits of the slow planets on the fast planets… in the past I have had it a couple of times, one in particular was a difficult year but very decisive for a very important issue. In Mildura in Australia I like Jupiter in conjunction with the descendant but it scares me because of the possibility of the bistable effect… then of course as you suggest putting the malefics in third is always a good and right thing. I thank you for the help you will want to give me
My data:
DANIELA
BORN IN FERRARA ON 09-17-1959 AT 5.07
Dear Daniela,
I have now inserted the English translation of your letter, but remember that in this space, due to a specific request from the Owner (Chiara Barbara), we all converse in English, to better characterize the international aspect of this space.
The two ASRs you propose are both excellent and it is really difficult to choose.
I would take both, but perhaps I would opt for Fernando’s in Brazil because, as I have explained several times, the Ascendant in the Tenth House, contemporary with heavy transits of slow planets, must be feared almost exclusively by those people who are in apex positions, at the top, where they could lose a seat overnight, such as important politicians, but also under-government politicians who could lose a position that is perhaps excessive compared to their possibilities.
From what I know, you are very far from this condition.
*Thank you very much Ciro 🧡
Dearest Ciro,
I am writing you concerning my next ASR which will take place in Kaohsiung, Taiwan.
I would like to know if in your opinion this could facilitate a love relationship with someone who I dated in the past.
I was born in Florence (Italy) on 1st September 1983, at 4.45 p.m. (16:45)
The place of my ASR in 2025 will be Kaohsiung in Taiwan.
My previous SR of 2024 was in Florence Italy.
My ex Sergio was born in Empoli at 3.00 a.m (night) on 6th August 1995.
The ASR he had in 2024 took place in Prague (CZ).
I don’t know where he will be for his ASR of 2025.
I look forward to hearing from you soon.
Kind regards,
Chiara
Chiara, your next ASR, with an Ascendant and a Pluto in the seventh House and Uranus in the eleventh House, protected by a strong dominant Jupiter, can favor a love story, but – of course – we are not able to say with which man you will have a love story, if you will have a love story.
And we cannot even say that such an ASR is strongly oriented towards love.
At this point, if you are very certain of your birth time, if you think you can tolerate the Saturn-Neptune conjunction in the first House and if you want to aim for the best in love, then you can go and spend your birthday in ABIDJAN (CÔTE D’IVOIRE (IVORY COAST)).
Best wishes.
P.S. But think carefully about this because this destination is not at all easy and is recommended only to experienced travelers.
I’m sure I cannot bear Saturn and Neptune in 1st house and will opt for Taiwan. I’m just not sure whether to spend the day of the SR in Kaohsiung or in Taipei.
In Taipei Mars will be on IC in Kaohsiung a couple of degrees away from it still in 4th house.
What would you recommend Ciro?
Best,
Chiara
I remind you, Chiara, that this space does not work as if it were a private chat: when you post something, you must allow everyone to understand what you are writing. I invite you again to indicate everything in the posts you publish here, including the complete birth data about which you want to ask a question.
Dearest Ciro,
I’m still learning how to interact in blog. It’s the very first time for me.
My question is: is it better to have a ASR in Kaohsiung or Taipei for 2025?
Such questions stems from the position of Mars, specifically, and the aim would be to make it less “vicious”.
The data of the subject are 01/09/1983, 4.45 pm, Florence Italy
Thank you in advance for the precious insight and opportunity, Master.
Best,
Chiara
Chiara, I don’t understand what you mean by a “less vicious” Mars, but I try to imagine that your question is: is it better if I go to Taipei or Kaohsiung for my next birthday?
Based on the restrictive basis of your question, I answer that for you it would be better to go to Meizhou, China, just a little further west of Taiwan. Let’s see why:
– In Taipei you will have a Jupiter close, but not too close, to the Ascendant and Mars on the cusp of the third-fourth House.
– In Kaohsiung you will have, equally, a Jupiter close, but not too close, to the Ascendant and Mars on the cusp of the third-fourth House.
– In Meizhou, however, you would have Jupiter at zero degrees from the Ascendant and Mars not on the cusp of the third-fourth House.
Dear Ciro,
there is a last matter which I would like to submit you. My LR of 24th June which will take place in Florence (Italy) and my ex partner’s one which will happen on 7th July in Moscow (RU) will have values that strikingly similar.
Seemingly, for the following LRs: mine will be on 22nd July in Marrakech (Morocco) and his will be in Empoli on 4th August.
The sincronicity strikes me because at present we are not in contact. From the 2nd week of July though, he will be in Empoly to spend his summer. So I would like to understand the role of Uranus on DC for both in July, and if that speaks about a reconciliation.
Our birth details are:
Chiara, 01/09/1983, 4.45 p.m. Florence (IT), SR of 2024 Florence
Sergio 06/08/1995, 3.00 a.m. (night) Empoli (IT), SR of 2024 Prague (CZ)
Chiara, as I told you in the past, in this space it is not possible to proceed with analyses of two subjects at the same time, especially if we want to try to intertwine 2 Natal Charts, 2 ASR and 2 ALR.
Dear Ciro,
I see and thank you for your support. I completely understand! I won’t use this space in that way anymore.
I’m trying to refine my predictive techniques and I’m studying your books on my own.
When I’m alone and try to make predictions, do you think this method of intertwining 2 ASR can make sense?
Thank you from the bottom of my heart
Yes, it may make sense, but these are not the only variables at play.